making sure no taliban soldiers saw him so he could be outed to the taliban. instead his intent all along was to kill people. so he seemed to good to be true in some ways, and in fact he was. >> joby, i wonder, between the events of september 11th or the battle of december '01 and take down, did we have a line on bin laden al zawahari, but the coldness of the trail allowed us to be dropped. we were so dress pratt for the right reasons yet either of them that we wanted it believe this guy was legitimate. >> yes. if you think about it, there are many people that claim that, yes, we know where osama bin laden was hiding. this trail went cold for years. this was an accident to get close to him, or at least to his deputy, perhaps days way from a really important strike. so yes, everybody was excited and not just to the cia but to the white house. and there was, as we look back, quite a rush as we meet this guy and see what he had to say. >> the book is titled the triple agent. he started out blogging as a hater of all things western and wanting blood on his own han